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Re: [SOGo] Debian Squeeze as client

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  • From: Mark Adams < >
  • To: " " < >
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  • Subject: Re: [SOGo] Debian Squeeze as client
  • Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:12:17 +0000

On 23 Feb 2011, at 19:45, Paul van der Vlis
< >

> Op 23-02-11 20:23, Mark Adams schreef:
>> On 23 Feb 2011, at 19:12, Paul van der Vlis
>> < >
>> wrote:
>>> Op 23-02-11 19:54, Jim Carter schreef:
>>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2011, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>>>>> I expect it's possible to change the Sogo plugins to accept
>>>>> version 3.0.11. But what is the reason to depend on Thunderbird
>>>>> version 3.1? Maybe these bugs are fixed in Debian.
>>>> My experience is with openSUSE so I can't help with
>>>> Debian-specific issues, but the Lightning plugin will only
>>>> install in Thunderbird 3.1.x, not 3.0.x.
>>> Hmm, you are right, the sogo-integrator-extention does install
>>> without any problem, so it's only a problem with Lightning, and I
>>> can use Lightning 1.0-b1 from Debian (called "iceowl-extention"),
>>> or the 1.0-b2 xpi from Mozilla.
>>>> I imagine that the SOGo plugins are based on or closely related
>>>> to Lightning and rely on infrastructure added in the newer
>>>> version.
>>>> On my net I obtained Thunderbird 3.1.6 from the SuSE Build
>>>> Service so we could use Lightning (with a CalDAV server which we
>>>> hope to replace with SOGo).
>>> Does this build service also create Debian packages?
>>>> Likely a recent version of Icedove can be found in Debian's
>>>> "unstable" collection.
>>> There is only a 3.1.7 in "experimental". When an package is in
>>> experimental this means there is something wrong.
>> This isn't necessarily true, it just means it hasn't been tested
>> thoroughly by the debian team I believe.
> from:
> ---------
> Experimental is used for packages which are still being developed, and
> with a high risk of breaking your system. It's used by developers who'd
> like to study and test bleeding edge software. Users shouldn't be using
> packages from here, because they can be dangerous and harmful even for
> the most experienced people.
> ---------
>> If you want recent Mozilla
>> software it has to come from Experimental. I run icedove and
>> iceweasel with sogo plugins.
> Icedove from experimental?
> Do you see problems?

Yes and it works well, remember this is the current STABLE release from

>> Easy enough to install also, just put the experimental apt sources
>> in then install with apt-get -t experimental... That package will
>> stay at that level and all others should stay squeeze.
> I know how to install from experimental, but it can break your system.
> It would be nice to know why it is in experimental.
> But as I said, it's not a good idea for normal users, because they need
> security support.

If I remember correctly, icedove doesn't have any other dependancies. It's a
single package that, for me atleast, works fine in squeeze. I've been using
icedove and iceweasel packages dim experimental for over a year.. The only
bugs have been the ones noted by Mozilla...

I take your point about end users though... I'm not sure why they take so
long to become stable in debian.

> With regards,
> Paul van der Vlis.
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