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Re: [SOGo] Debian Squeeze as client


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  • From: Mark Adams < >
  • To: " " < >
  • Cc: " " < >
  • Subject: Re: [SOGo] Debian Squeeze as client
  • Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:23:38 +0000



Regards,
Mark

On 23 Feb 2011, at 20:12, Mark Adams
< >
wrote:

>
> On 23 Feb 2011, at 19:45, Paul van der Vlis
> < >
> wrote:
>
>> Op 23-02-11 20:23, Mark Adams schreef:
>>>
>>> On 23 Feb 2011, at 19:12, Paul van der Vlis
>>> < >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Op 23-02-11 19:54, Jim Carter schreef:
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2011, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect it's possible to change the Sogo plugins to accept
>>>>>> version 3.0.11. But what is the reason to depend on Thunderbird
>>>>>> version 3.1? Maybe these bugs are fixed in Debian.
>>>>>
>>>>> My experience is with openSUSE so I can't help with
>>>>> Debian-specific issues, but the Lightning plugin will only
>>>>> install in Thunderbird 3.1.x, not 3.0.x.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, you are right, the sogo-integrator-extention does install
>>>> without any problem, so it's only a problem with Lightning, and I
>>>> can use Lightning 1.0-b1 from Debian (called "iceowl-extention"),
>>>> or the 1.0-b2 xpi from Mozilla.
>>>>
>>>>> I imagine that the SOGo plugins are based on or closely related
>>>>> to Lightning and rely on infrastructure added in the newer
>>>>> version.
>>>>>
>>>>> On my net I obtained Thunderbird 3.1.6 from the SuSE Build
>>>>> Service so we could use Lightning (with a CalDAV server which we
>>>>> hope to replace with SOGo).
>>>>
>>>> Does this build service also create Debian packages?
>>>>
>>>>> Likely a recent version of Icedove can be found in Debian's
>>>>> "unstable" collection.
>>>>
>>>> There is only a 3.1.7 in "experimental". When an package is in
>>>> experimental this means there is something wrong.
>>>
>>> This isn't necessarily true, it just means it hasn't been tested
>>> thoroughly by the debian team I believe.
>>
>> from: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.en.html
>> ---------
>> Experimental is used for packages which are still being developed, and
>> with a high risk of breaking your system. It's used by developers who'd
>> like to study and test bleeding edge software. Users shouldn't be using
>> packages from here, because they can be dangerous and harmful even for
>> the most experienced people.
>> ---------
>>
>>> If you want recent Mozilla
>>> software it has to come from Experimental. I run icedove and
>>> iceweasel with sogo plugins.
>>
>> Icedove from experimental?
>> Do you see problems?
>
> Yes and it works well, remember this is the current STABLE release from
> Mozilla.
>
>>
>>> Easy enough to install also, just put the experimental apt sources
>>> in then install with apt-get -t experimental... That package will
>>> stay at that level and all others should stay squeeze.
>>
>> I know how to install from experimental, but it can break your system.
>> It would be nice to know why it is in experimental.
>>
>> But as I said, it's not a good idea for normal users, because they need
>> security support.
>>
>
> If I remember correctly, icedove doesn't have any other dependancies. It's
> a single package that, for me atleast, works fine in squeeze. I've been
> using icedove and iceweasel packages dim experimental for over a year.. The
> only bugs have been the ones noted by Mozilla...

To clarify my note above, By no dependancies I mean the deps are all in
squeeze..

>
> I take your point about end users though... I'm not sure why they take so
> long to become stable in debian.
>
>> With regards,
>> Paul van der Vlis.
>>
>>
>>
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