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RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.

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  • From: "Mark Madere" < >
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  • Subject: RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.
  • Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:59:29 -0600

Are you using Active directory to mange your exchange users? If so you can
point SOGo at your AD server and manage your users the same way you always

I think rolling cyrus + postfix + OpenChange is an uphill battle. And it
won't provide you with an admin tool. Also, are you sure your users don't
want/use calendars and contacts?

I like sleep too,

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs
Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013 03:48 PM CST
From: administrator
< >

> Me personally, it's a personal quest to abolish all things not open source
> from my workplace (I'm the IT admin/programmer/database/mail guy). I've got
> spiceworks taking care of watching my network and inventory, and exchange
> deciding not to send mail on random days at around 11am without reason or
> any real help in the logs. I've already moved from SCO OpenServer 5 ->
> Ubuntu 8.04 and had great success, this is the next logical step.
> I knew what it was from the start, it's basically just a webmail type
> website that works with a bunch of common mail servers and other projects
> allowing for outlook connections. In my case my only benefit would be
> sleep, and I like sleeping. I was kind of hoping it would just work like
> webmin, but I see your point about people wanting to roll out their own
> solutions.
> At this point I'm just wondering if I can just do cyrus + postfix +
> OpenChange. I only need IMAP,MAPI,SMTP,DNS (to make it independent),
> backups and built in authentication. To be honest, the less the better.
> Please correct me if I'm mistaken and cannot do the 3 things above without
> sogo gluing them together. I realize some people need a web interface, we
> got outlook and phones so we don't need that.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayland Sothcott
> [mailto: ]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:50 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs
> commands.
> On 21/02/2013 18:39, Mark Madere wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I have looked through all the posts on this topic and I would like to add
> > my two cents (, as we say in the US). I think many people commenting on
> > this thread misunderstand SOGo and ZEG.
> >
> > From the ZEG download page:
> >
> > "The ZEG (Zero Effort Groupware) edition of SOGo is intended to provide a
> > complete out-of-the-box testing environment of SOGo, the Open Source
> > messaging and calendaring software."
> >
> > From the SOGo home page:
> >
> > "SOGo is fully supported and trusted groupware server with a focus on
> > scalability and open standards. ... SOGo is the missing component of your
> > infrastructure; it sits in the middle of your servers to offer your users
> > an uniform and complete interface to access their information."
> >
> > So what does that mean? It means ZEG is a virtual appliance to help you
> > understand how SOGo works so you can setup your own servers. It means
> > that SOGo is not a mail server. It is not a directory server. It is not
> > a database server. It means that it has no users to manage.
> >
> > If you are looking to use a testing environment like ZEG as a production
> > server I think you will be disappointed that it lacks the features
> > required for production. If you are looking to build your own production
> > server, then SOGo can be a great component along side other components.
> > The beauty of SOGo is that it can be configured to work with many
> > systems. And because of that there is no way that SOGo can manage users
> > from every directory/database/posix/etc. server. It is up to each
> > administrator to setup and manage their mail servers, users accounts,
> > databases, etc.. the way they want.
> >
> > I hope this helps clarify what ZEG and SOGo are, and what they are not.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > ps: If you are looking for turn-key solutions that includes SOGo, there
> > are companies that can help you with that. If you want to roll your own
> > solution and need help Inverse can provide you commercial support.
> >
> >
> >
> I think you have explained what we all know very well and it is the problem
> we are trying to solve. We want to roll our own turn key solution.
> I don't know where open source software comes from or why. However I think
> it's significant that the components are free but putting it together into
> something someone can use costs money.
> I want to build servers for my customers and charge them money. However I
> don't mind freely helping people with what I have learned so they can build
> servers for their customers.
> If someone is making money from charging us server builders money so we can
> build servers, they are not going to be very happy if we figure out how to
> help each other for free. Hence why ZEG is not a full turn key solution. If
> it was an ISO it would be closer, hence it's a VM.
> I think I probably need to change my entire world view.
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