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RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.


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  • Subject: RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.
  • Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:35:58 +0000
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I'll play around. Like I said as long as I can manage from the command line I
can make a nice seto of open source tools for us.

Mark Madere
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M,

I am not sure what you mean by public folders. But if you are referring to a
shared address book then SOGo can do that. My team shares several books
which are owned by one user. The users who are sharing the books can add and
edit cards.

I understand that you could survive with a non AD source for users. But I
still don't know of a one that comes with an admin tool except for the one
that I built myself. But my tool is not suited for your purposes.

Mark

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Subject: RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs
commands.
Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013 07:37 PM CST
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> I see what you mean, we only really need 1 set of contacts (Not the active
> directory ones).
> It's a contact list, created in a public folder. That is then configured to
> be the main contact list on all machines with outlook.
> Forgot to ask if public folders are supported, that's the only single item
> that would be useful to create. We don't need to store emails or notes
> etc...
>
> We have hundreds of AD users that we don't care to see for other types of
> access, we just have 10 mailbox users. I don't want this machine to have
> anything to do with any windows machine. I'm eliminating dependencies so
> even if the entire domain goes down, outlook and it's mail authentication
> will keep rolling happily along. I know all too well that when anything
> goes wrong at the active directory/exchange level, it's not just a little
> problem, it's catastrophic and time consuming. This is my new strategy so
> that rebooting servers won't affect other servers for stuff that doesn't
> need that much integration.
>
> -M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Madere
> [mailto: ]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:59 PM
> To:
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> Subject: RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs
> commands.
>
> Are you using Active directory to mange your exchange users? If so you can
> point SOGo at your AD server and manage your users the same way you always
> have.
>
> I think rolling cyrus + postfix + OpenChange is an uphill battle. And it
> won't provide you with an admin tool. Also, are you sure your users don't
> want/use calendars and contacts?
>
> I like sleep too,
> Mark
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs
> commands.
> Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013 03:48 PM CST
> From: administrator
> < >
>
>
> > Me personally, it's a personal quest to abolish all things not open
> > source from my workplace (I'm the IT admin/programmer/database/mail guy).
> > I've got spiceworks taking care of watching my network and inventory, and
> > exchange deciding not to send mail on random days at around 11am without
> > reason or any real help in the logs. I've already moved from SCO
> > OpenServer 5 -> Ubuntu 8.04 and had great success, this is the next
> > logical step.
> >
> > I knew what it was from the start, it's basically just a webmail type
> > website that works with a bunch of common mail servers and other projects
> > allowing for outlook connections. In my case my only benefit would be
> > sleep, and I like sleeping. I was kind of hoping it would just work like
> > webmin, but I see your point about people wanting to roll out their own
> > solutions.
> >
> > At this point I'm just wondering if I can just do cyrus + postfix +
> > OpenChange. I only need IMAP,MAPI,SMTP,DNS (to make it independent),
> > backups and built in authentication. To be honest, the less the better.
> >
> > Please correct me if I'm mistaken and cannot do the 3 things above
> > without sogo gluing them together. I realize some people need a web
> > interface, we got outlook and phones so we don't need that.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wayland Sothcott
> > [mailto: ]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:50 PM
> > To:
> >
> > Subject: Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs
> > commands.
> >
> > On 21/02/2013 18:39, Mark Madere wrote:
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I have looked through all the posts on this topic and I would like to
> > > add my two cents (, as we say in the US). I think many people
> > > commenting on this thread misunderstand SOGo and ZEG.
> > >
> > > From the ZEG download page:
> > >
> > > "The ZEG (Zero Effort Groupware) edition of SOGo is intended to provide
> > > a complete out-of-the-box testing environment of SOGo, the Open Source
> > > messaging and calendaring software."
> > >
> > > From the SOGo home page:
> > >
> > > "SOGo is fully supported and trusted groupware server with a focus on
> > > scalability and open standards. ... SOGo is the missing component of
> > > your infrastructure; it sits in the middle of your servers to offer
> > > your users an uniform and complete interface to access their
> > > information."
> > >
> > > So what does that mean? It means ZEG is a virtual appliance to help
> > > you understand how SOGo works so you can setup your own servers. It
> > > means that SOGo is not a mail server. It is not a directory server.
> > > It is not a database server. It means that it has no users to manage.
> > >
> > > If you are looking to use a testing environment like ZEG as a
> > > production server I think you will be disappointed that it lacks the
> > > features required for production. If you are looking to build your own
> > > production server, then SOGo can be a great component along side other
> > > components. The beauty of SOGo is that it can be configured to work
> > > with many systems. And because of that there is no way that SOGo can
> > > manage users from every directory/database/posix/etc. server. It is up
> > > to each administrator to setup and manage their mail servers, users
> > > accounts, databases, etc.. the way they want.
> > >
> > > I hope this helps clarify what ZEG and SOGo are, and what they are not.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > ps: If you are looking for turn-key solutions that includes SOGo, there
> > > are companies that can help you with that. If you want to roll your
> > > own solution and need help Inverse can provide you commercial support.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I think you have explained what we all know very well and it is the
> > problem we are trying to solve. We want to roll our own turn key solution.
> >
> > I don't know where open source software comes from or why. However I
> > think it's significant that the components are free but putting it
> > together into something someone can use costs money.
> >
> > I want to build servers for my customers and charge them money. However I
> > don't mind freely helping people with what I have learned so they can
> > build servers for their customers.
> >
> > If someone is making money from charging us server builders money so we
> > can build servers, they are not going to be very happy if we figure out
> > how to help each other for free. Hence why ZEG is not a full turn key
> > solution. If it was an ISO it would be closer, hence it's a VM.
> >
> > I think I probably need to change my entire world view.
> >
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